Am I unresonable? [Archive]

estero

01-26-2001, 02:57 PM

Ok, my boyfriend lives in the states (see thread "Long Distance Relationships") Anyway, he's in New York City for business. Yesterday, around 6pm he told me that he was meeting his friend to go see the city/bars whatever, and that he would be back around 10 or 11 because he has to get up at 7am the next day. So I'm like, cool, have a godo time.

I never worry, nor do I get upset when he goes out or anything like that. I'm so non-controlling. JUST THOUGHT I WOULD THROW THAT IN!

Last night around 1am, I start to worry. I haven't heard from him yet and he said he would be back earlier. I know there is no possibility that he fell asleep without calling me, etc. I only worried because he said he would be back fairly early because of the time he had to wake up the next day.

So, its like 2am now and I have to get up for school (which I didnt make because I slept in) at like 7:30am. I'm sitting worrying because he doesn't know the City, etc etc, tons of things are running through my mind, and I know he would have paged me and left me a voice msg so I wouldn't worry.

FINALLY, I get a page at like 2:15am and its him. Well, right now, I'm fucking furious. I call him at his hotel and I'm mad. He doesn't understand how I could be mad, etc.

Am I being unreasonable? I thought he might be dead in a ditch. He said to me, "when I worried about you the other night (which doesn't even compare to this) I was happy when I found out you were ok." Well tough shit, I was pissed because his friend had a cell phone and he could have called me for a second. PLUS, to make matters worse, he was fucking drunk.

So, am I wrong?

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King Bastard

01-26-2001, 10:30 PM

Wrong for worrying, no. Wrong for the way you expressed that worry, maybe. I know that when I am drunk, and I have my GF yelling at me, I go from being all understanding to being a total dick about it.

Look at it this way, he's alive, well, and at least he DID call you. That's more than a lot of people would do.

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estero

01-27-2001, 03:03 AM

I didn't yell at him. I just refused to speak to him at that hour because I was tired and because he was drunk. I spoke to him for about 3 minutes, which he didn't like very much. I let him know I was mad by not saying anything at all.

Yelling is too easy.

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Bishop

01-27-2001, 11:59 AM

Yes.

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Koliedrus

01-27-2001, 01:39 PM

Let's see here.

He told you in advance that he was gonna hit the bars. He also thought enough of you to contact you even though the alcohol and antics interfered with his sense of time.

Was your reaction abnormal? No. You behaved in the standard manner.

Can you reconcile your relationship once he sobers up?

Yes. I think you have enough information to understand the situation after the adrenaline and alcohol have metabolized.

Is there a future in a long-distance relationship?

I think I'll spend a bit more time in that thread.

estero

01-27-2001, 02:03 PM

All is well with him and I now. We never fight for long. It wasn't big enough for me to keep running with it. I was just upset that night and that was it.

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Princess_Heather

01-29-2001, 05:27 PM

No - I'm the EXACT same way. You worry because you love him and because your female mind would have handled the situation differently had it been the other way around. I totally know how you feel... how fucking hard would it have been to call you? Your brain must think... well, if he didn't call me that must mean he wasn't thinking about me, and this whole time I was worried sick thinking about him and he didn't even think about me once or care enough to give me a little call to say hi, I love you, I'm having fun, i miss you, etc. IF he doesn't think about me as much as I think about him, he must not care or love me... WRONG

That is how I used to think. I think like that because I am female and that is how my brain works. That is why I'd get upset and freak out and he wouldn't understand what the big deal was. This is what I learned... an analogy from a man himself and some facts I used to rationalize this analogy.

First of all, the left and right hemispheres of the female brain have 200% MORE connectivity than that of a man. Compared to us, men have a lobotomy. Our left and right brains communicate freely and work together while theirs ignore one another and could care less what the other half is doing. This is why women are so good at thinking, talking, doing, and feeling all at the same time and can express how they feel and what they want with out really thinking about it, just instantly express it. Most men, have to think about how they feel for a while and THEN try to translate that feeling into words and sentences before they can express it to another person.

The Analogy: A man's brain is like a BIG room with doors/colsets all around it. When you are with him or talking to him you are in the room with him and if there are no other distractions all the doors are closed. When a distraction comes allong (TV, video games, etc) one of the doors is opened and he focuses on the distraction in that closet. The distraction enters the room with him and you are placed in the doorway where the distraction was. As he becomes immersed with the distraction, the door closes and he gives all his attention to the distraction. He can't both focus on the distraction and think about you unless the distraction is interrupted by you or by something that reminds him of you. Even though he is not thinking of you, you are still there, the door is just closed. His unconscious mind knows you are there but because his connections are weak the conscious mind that talks to you and loves you is busy with the distraction. The good thing about being in the closet when you are with him is that you have the power to open it as you please and walk out into the room and put the distraction back behind the door.

Now, when YOU ARE NOT with him/talking to him/gaining his attention he is either in the room alone or with another distraction (work, friends, errands, etc.) You are there too, but you are still behind one of the closed doors and unless that door is opened by HIM or a reminder of you, he cannot think about you and remember to call you/comfort you etc. You cannot open the door in this situation unless you put yourself in the room by calling him or physically going to wherever he is. This doesn't mean he doesn't love you, it means that only one door can be opened at once and only one thing can be on his mind/heart at a time. Many things can open that door, like if his friend asked about you or if his pager went off and it was you, or if he saw a girl that looked like you... but, you cannot enter the room and put any distractions away, you only stand there in the open closet until he closes the door when he is done thinking about you and is distracted by something else. You will ALWAYS be in the room with him or behind a door because he loves you and his brain has created a closet for you to dwell, but he can only think of you and interract with you if your door is open and he is not preoccupied with other duties.

This may not apply to every man, but it is how Joe explained it to me and I now understand him and am not hurt when he forgets to call me from work or let me know the very instant his flight has touched down in another city and he is safe and sound on the ground. Yes I worry, that is my nature, I worry because I love him. WOrrying does not make me or any woman obsessive. Sometimes I still get mad, (mostly cuz I frustrated that I worried over nothing) especially if it is one of those "How the hell could you NOT think of me for 5 straight hours?" situations but he now understands WHY I get mad and is comforting and loving and apologizes until I calm down. It also is harder for me to get mad because I understand how he thinks. Before he used to get mad too, and then I would get even madder that he was mad and he didn't understand me and would snowball into a hateful rage over a silly little phonecall he forgot. Him understanding why I would get so upset actually helped him to remember to call me, and things got tons better. Try to really explain your mind and thoughts to him so that he gets a hint as to why you react the way you do and then he won't be offended and defensive when it happens again.

Anyways - I hope this helps a little and applies to you. It might not, every couple and situation and man is different, but it works for us.

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Koliedrus

01-29-2001, 06:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Princess_Heather:
First of all, the left and right lobes of the female brain have 200% MORE connectivity than that of a man. Compared to us, men have a lobotomy. Our left and right brains communicate freely and work together while theirs ignore one another and could care less what the other half is doing.

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Whoa now! Are those facts from Cosmo?

You're categorizing intelligence based on arbitrary statistics. I'm not so sure I appreciate being lumped into a group because of my gender.

Answer me this:

Is a male more able to view this situation if his mind leans toward the effeminate?

If so, how do you guage the degree of comprehension between one male mind and another?

What if I told you that I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body?

I call bullshit.

You have 24 hours to covince me otherwise. Afer that...

Scarey Faces!

BRB. My right hemisphere just got a call from the left.

Princess_Heather

01-29-2001, 07:37 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Koliedrus:

Whoa now! Are those facts from Cosmo?

You're categorizing intelligence based on arbitrary statistics. I'm not so sure I appreciate being lumped into a group because of my gender.

Answer me this:

Is a male more able to view this situation if his mind leans toward the effeminate?

If so, how do you guage the degree of comprehension between one male mind and another?

What if I told you that I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body?

I call bullshit.

You have 24 hours to covince me otherwise. Afer that...

Scarey Faces!

BRB. My right hemisphere just got a call from the left.

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As previousily stated, darling... THAT IS MY RATIONALIZATON. You don't have to apply it to yourslef. I am NOT lumping you into any group. Read carefully and you will see how many times I said "this may not apply to everyone".

That was what MY brain came up with to understand/beleive the analogy/excuses given to me. I learned that little piece of information in a neuro-bio class I took last year. I will search for proof and post it after classes today.

You sound offended. WHY? That info was not intended to make you feel inferior. Separated lobes are in no way a disadvantage. Think really hard, on evolutionary terms, WHY males would benefit from brains with the power to close all doors except the one related to their current preoccupation (survival/hunting/fending for the family) and why WOMEN would need the ability to do a zillion things at once(cook/plan/worry/love/clean the cave/watch the kids/take care of her cave man) And don't go calling me sexist because I believe biologicaly women were built to function differently than men. I form my beliefs by looking at history, evolution and the physiology of the male and female body.

It is also true that men have more braincells than women... Does that make us inferior? NO - it means it takes more grey matter for them to function at the same level we do. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Seriously, our brains are chemically different for a reason. It all evens out in the end. You are generally better at some things than we are, and visa versa.

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Princess_Heather

01-29-2001, 07:45 PM

I made an error. I meant HEMISPHERICAL (ie Left & Right halves) SEPARATION. NOT LOBAL.

A lobotomy is NOT a separation between the left & right halfs. In frontal or prefrontal lobotomy, the nerve connections between the prefrontal cortex and the rest of the brain are severed.

Could this be why you were confused Kol?

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Princess_Heather

01-29-2001, 07:59 PM

One Interesting Article (http://neuroscience.miningco.com/science/neuroscience/library/pr/blpr991215.htm)

"You always suspected it, and now it's proven: Men and women's brains are distinctly different. Men have more neurons in the cerebral cortex, the brain's outer layer, while women have more neuropil, which contains the processes allowing communication between brain cells." (http://unisci.com/stories/19992/0421993.htm)

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Koliedrus

01-30-2001, 12:56 PM

Me? Offended? Heaven forbid!

Well, maybe a little. See, whenever I hear or read something about one type of human's characteristics based on scientific study, I can't help but find holes in the logic provided. Some of my ideas are conceptual but some are based on experience. In this instance, the terms "we" and "they" are at issue.

I'll give you a familiar example:

On more than one occasion, I've come across some faceless person with a nickname that really says nothing about their race, gender, nationality, beliefs, sexual orientation etc. Many times my impression of them turns out to be wrong. I've had lengthy conversation spanning over weeks or months with individuals without knowing these details. It's never been an issue unless they make it known to me. More than once, I've thought to myself "this guy is nuts" and found that I've been conversing with a female. I, myself, was once asked if I was female because I have the ability to understand the thought processes involved and sometimes express myself in ways that make it difficult to determine my nature. Being able to emulate different modes of thinking does not make me superior to anyone. In fact, my impression is that I'm part of the norm.

Still, my questions persist:

Does my ability to understand the thought processes of a particular type of individual necessarily place me in their category? I'll answer for you.

No!

My irritation comes from the way you expressed a potentially enlightening idea. I can only hope that my status as a heterosexual-white-adult-non-pratcicing-cradle-catholic-male doesn't offend someone before they've had the chance to get to know me.

Once upon a time I "met" a wonderfully energetic and intelligent person online. Daily discussions ensued concerning a wide variety of topic before I receive the following message:

"By the way, I'm a lesbian. I thought you should know".

My response:

"Good for you! If I were a woman I wouldn't suck a dick either http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/wink.gif

You mentioned that you've read some of Hawking's work. The idea of standing north of the North Pole....."

If she hadn't told me, I never would have known. I didn't (and don't) care.

Then again, maybe I just proved your point. I'll have to ask Mrs. Kol.

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morgana

02-03-2001, 03:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Kaye:
Ok, my boyfriend lives in the states (see thread "Long Distance Relationships") Anyway, he's in New York City for business. Yesterday, around 6pm he told me that he was meeting his friend to go see the city/bars whatever, and that he would be back around 10 or 11 because he has to get up at 7am the next day. So I'm like, cool, have a godo time.

ok...and no where in this text do i see you asking him to call you, or him promising a phone call. of course, you may have forgotten to mention it...

I never worry, nor do I get upset when he goes out or anything like that. I'm so non-controlling. JUST THOUGHT I WOULD THROW THAT IN!

Last night around 1am, I start to worry.

um...

I haven't heard from him yet and he said he would be back earlier. I know there is no possibility that he fell asleep without calling me, etc.

why not? if he went out drinking, you're going to tell me that there's NO possibility of him passing out without notifying you? i think i'm beginning to see the problem here...

So, its like 2am now and I have to get up for school (which I didnt make because I slept in) at like 7:30am. I'm sitting worrying because he doesn't know the City, etc etc, tons of things are running through my mind, and I know he would have paged me and left me a voice msg so I wouldn't worry.

and i bet you're holding that over his head right now...(if it wasn't for him, i wouldn't have been up half of the night, worrying about his dumb ass...)

FINALLY, I get a page at like 2:15am and its him. Well, right now, I'm fucking furious. I call him at his hotel and I'm mad. He doesn't understand how I could be mad, etc.

Am I being unreasonable?

definitely.

I thought he might be dead in a ditch. He said to me, "when I worried about you the other night (which doesn't even compare to this)

why doesn't it compare to this? because it would leave you no leg to stand on in the argument?

Well tough shit, I was pissed because his friend had a cell phone and he could have called me for a second. PLUS, to make matters worse, he was fucking drunk.

what did you expect was going to happen? he was going to drink a beer, then just sit there and watch his friends have a good time?

So, am I wrong?

do you have to ask?

look, i'm sorry if i sound like a bitch. i don't really mean to. but it's girls like you that give women a bad name.

he went out and had a good time. that's the crux of this. you can deny it all you want, but i know. i *used* to be like this.

you're not with him right now, and even though you tell yourself (and him) that you want him to have a good time while you're seperated, inside you want him to be sitting in his hotel room, pining for you. it upset you because he went out and had fun without you. that dirty bastard.
now you're asking yourself: who the fuck are you, and why do you think that you suddenly know me? simple: you've just told me who you are.

you said you never worry. so why were you up half of the night? well, you say, it was past one am, and he would NEVER go to sleep without calling me. never? why? what would happen if he did? wait, you've already told me: you get furious. so ask yourself: does he call you every night out of love? or does he call you because he doesn't want to fight with you the next day? in your text above, you never mentioned him telling you he would call. so, if he didn't promise you a phone call, what right do you have to jump all over him?
now...when you get pissed with him on the phone, he is puzzled. you were late before, and he was just relieved for your safety. tough shit, you say. and those are your exact words. tough shit. which tells me that you weren't worried for his safety. that's just your excuse for reaming him. again, you were outraged at his audacity. how DARE he do something that goes against what you want.
and to make matters worse, you say, he was fucking drunk. you don't say! i have never seen that happen at a bar before.

this whole thing reeks of control issues. right now, you feel so frustrated because he is running around, doing what he wants to do, when he wants to. the fact that you HAD to say that you're not controlling tells me that this has been an issue in your relationship before. why else would it be on your mind?

a relationship is a two way street. you have to give back what you receive. period. if he had treated you like shit when you called late, it would be different. but you just threw his love and concern for you right back in his face when he said it. what do you think will happen the next time YOU call late? this is a dangerous cycle to be in right now. you guys are seperated by alot of distance. he's got his freedom right now. if you start trying to dictate his behavior from afar, how do you think this is going to end up?

again, i'm sorry for sounding so harsh. but it needed to be said.

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estero

02-03-2001, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by morgana:
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look, i'm sorry if i sound like a bitch. i don't really mean to. but it's girls like you that give women a bad name.

he went out and had a good time. that's the crux of this. you can deny it all you want, but i know. i *used* to be like this.[b]

No, you are wrong, and I'll tell you why. I was nervous and afraid because there is NO way for me to see what happened if something did. There is no one I could contact.

[b]you're not with him right now, and even though you tell yourself (and him) that you want him to have a good time while you're seperated, inside you want him to be sitting in his hotel room, pining for you. it upset you because he went out and had fun without you. that dirty bastard.
now you're asking yourself: who the fuck are you, and why do you think that you suddenly know me? simple: you've just told me who you are.[b]

You know, you have no clue what my relationship is like, we are seperated ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I live in Canada he lives in the states, I deal with with ALL THE FUCKING TIME. He goes out all the time, I don't give a fuck. I'm NOT like that.Another factor which I shoudn't even mention is a close person to me DIED the week before so I was a little freaked out.

ps: kiss my fucking ass.

[b]you said you never worry. so why were you up half of the night? well, you say, it was past one am, and he would NEVER go to sleep without calling me. never? why? what would happen if he did? wait, you've already told me: you get furious. so ask yourself: does he call you every night out of love? or does he call you because he doesn't want to fight with you the next day? in your text above, you never mentioned him telling you he would call. so, if he didn't promise you a phone call, what right do you have to jump all over him? [b]

I never jumped all over him you fucking twit. I was a bit upset and didn't want to speak to him because he was drunk. He did promise me a phonecall, I was also upset because he woke me up.

[b]now...when you get pissed with him on the phone, he is puzzled. you were late before, and he was just relieved for your safety. tough shit, you say. and those are your exact words. tough shit. which tells me that you weren't worried for his safety. that's just your excuse for reaming him. again, you were outraged at his audacity. how DARE he do something that goes against what you want.
and to make matters worse, you say, he was fucking drunk. you don't say! i have never seen that happen at a bar before. [b]

You don't know him. He doesn't drink. 

[b]this whole thing reeks of control issues. right now, you feel so frustrated because he is running around, doing what he wants to do, when he wants to. the fact that you HAD to say that you're not controlling tells me that this has been an issue in your relationship before. why else would it be on your mind?[b]

Take that statement and shove it up your fucking ass.

[b]a relationship is a two way street. you have to give back what you receive. period. if he had treated you like shit when you called late, it would be different. but you just threw his love and concern for you right back in his face when he said it. what do you think will happen the next time YOU call late? this is a dangerous cycle to be in right now. you guys are seperated by alot of distance. he's got his freedom right now. if you start trying to dictate his behavior from afar, how do you think this is going to end up?

again, i'm sorry for sounding so harsh. but it needed to be said.

Needed to be said? laugh.

You ignorant bitch. You have no clue what my relationship is like but you now claim to be the expert. I really resent most of your comments because they hold no validity. You are usually pretty intelligent, but this load of verbal diarrhea made me sick.

You don't know anything, and your comment about you "USE" to be me, *vomit*. You wish.

You could have delivered this in another way because this topic is very close to my heart, and for that very reason, I will never forgive you for your words. Learn something about tact, sweetheart.

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morgana

02-04-2001, 03:34 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Kaye:

No, you are wrong, and I'll tell you why. I was nervous and afraid because there is NO way for me to see what happened if something did. There is no one I could contact.

further down in your post, you say that you two are seperated all the time, that this sort of thing happens alot. above, in your first post, you say that you never worry.

now, let's see. if you never worry, and you're apart all the time, then what makes this particular night so special? if you two are apart alot, i'm sure it's difficult to contact one another frequently.

You know, you have no clue what my relationship is like, we are seperated ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I live in Canada he lives in the states, I deal with with ALL THE FUCKING TIME. He goes out all the time, I don't give a fuck. I'm NOT like that.Another factor which I shoudn't even mention is a close person to me DIED the week before so I was a little freaked out. 

as far as not knowing your relationship, you are correct. all i know is what you have shared with me via the first post. i have therefore formed an opinion on the information given to me. if you feel that i've made an error in judgement, then maybe you should look at the way you chose to post. i can only reply on what i have been given.


ps: kiss my fucking ass.

that's a bit rude, considering that i was only being honest. 

I never jumped all over him you fucking twit. 

ok, let me get this straight. what were the words you used in your post...hmmm..."i was furious"..."i was pissed"..."tough shit"...what kind of conclusions do you think people are going to draw? again, if you feel i have come to the wrong conclusions, you should look at your choice of words.



 I was a bit upset and didn't want to speak to him because he was drunk. He did promise me a phonecall, I was also upset because he woke me up.

a bit upset? again, look at your choice of phrasing and tell me how someone is going to distinguish "a bit upset" from the words you used. upset that he woke you up? i thought you were expecting him to call? i thought you were waiting up with worry?

make up your mind. every other sentence contradicts the last one.

Take that statement and shove it up your fucking ass.

this is a great way to demonstrate to people how you take criticism.

Needed to be said? laugh.

You ignorant bitch. You have no clue what my relationship is like but you now claim to be the expert. I really resent most of your comments because they hold no validity. You are usually pretty intelligent, but this load of verbal diarrhea made me sick.



again, you're right. i have only the information provided to me. by you. so read what i have already said about that above. and if my comments hold no validity, why are you so upset? why bother with defending yourself against something that's obviously not true? 


You don't know anything, and your comment about you "USE" to be me, *vomit*. You wish.

i think you summed yourself up pretty well with that one.


You could have delivered this in another way because this topic is very close to my heart, and for that very reason, I will never forgive you for your words. Learn something about tact, sweetheart.

 yeah, i could've delivered it in another way. but that wouldn't have been true to myself. i won't post some useless PC bullshit full of emoticons just because it will stroke your ego the right way. i even apologized for coming across harshly.

i think you really need to look at yourself and how you're behaving in this thread. you ASKED for opinions, and when someone says something that you don't like, you behave like a juvenile:

"ps: kiss my fucking ass"

"I never jumped all over him you fucking twit. "

"Take that statement and shove it up your fucking ass."

"You ignorant bitch."

...you have the gall to tell ME to get some tact? that's the funniest thing i've ever seen.

try treating people who disagree with you with some courtesy, if you expect to get any in return. 
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3MTA3

02-04-2001, 04:49 AM

Fucking shit you two make me horny...haha...

Kaye, you were a bit defensive...but I can see how morganas tone was a little umm...harsh...anyway, advice was solicited and it was given...instead of hugging and making nice Id like to see you two wrestle naked in some mud...but, I fear that shit wont happen...at least, not the way I dreamed it...so settle the fuck down...

Kaye, you being pissed was "wrong"...I wouldnt have put up with that sort of shit if I was dating you...no matter how good your pussy is...when you let someone go and you even give your blessing, you shouldnt try to turn it around on them and make a minor lapse in judgement out to be some serious fuck up...I mean really...fucking look at what you were upset about...a late phone call...thats fucking petty...and what if his ass was dead and rotting in a fucking gutter...is that really news that you want to hear immediately?? Wouldnt you rather it tarried...you know, postpone the grief period if only for a few hours...I dunno...Ive been with women who had fits over minor shit like this and it didnt last long...maybe your boyfriend is just spineless??

I mean no offence Kaye, Im just trying to push yer buttons while conveying my view on this deal...ho-bag...

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Koliedrus

02-04-2001, 12:04 PM

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02-04-2001, 04:37 PM

You do not know the circumstances leading up to this night. It wasn't PETTY, and I'm not going to get into it with you. I didn't get MAD, I was just hurt.

The end. I don't need anymore advice. Thank you for reminding me why I never spoke about really personal things on the boards before. I won't make the same mistake again.

Eatme, the above statement is not for you.

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